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. bill yes indeed. president obama in michigan, joining the fight against the right-to-work legislation. good morning everybody. it is tuesday december 11. you're watching the full-court press here on current tv and you're listening to it on your local talk radio station and on sirius x.m. this hour. welcome, welcome, welcome to the program. here we go as we tackle the issues of the day here on this tuesday, december 11. and, of course, give. >> chance to get involved in the conversation. not just to hear what's going on but to talk about what it means to you. you can follow us on twitter at bpshow and we'll read a lot of your comments on the air. you can follow us on facebook. facebook.com/billpressshow. you can give us a call at 1-866-55-press and you can join the chat room yourself and talk to other listeners and viewers to the program this morning across the nation. go to current.com. follow the click to the chat room and you are in. you're look good this morning. good to have you on board with te
. >> in michigan, the president stands up for workers like he has never done before. >> these so-called right the work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. >> tonight the president's big speech, and why the fight in michigan is an assault on workers everywhere. >>> plus, major news on a white house push for immigration reform. in 40 years after man's last trip to the moon, a return voyage may be a reality. astronomer derrick pitts will tell you why the golden spike is a big deal. good to have you with us, folks. thanks for watching. the new republican strategy is to take the american economy hostage when they don't get what they want. they realize their back is against the wall on tax rates for the rich, so they are turning their attention to another target, and it's a familiar one. here is tennessee senator bob corker talking about tax rates for the top 2% of americans. >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory, and i actually think it has merit where you go in and give the president the 2% increase that he is talking about, the rate incre
alert. tonight, michigan, the home of the american automobile industry, state that has been dominated by big labor unions, is now a right to work state. michigan's republican governor has just signed a bill in to law ending union ability to force workers to pay dues. february they are not in the union. democrats are predicting a warning of blood in the streets. here is what the governor said moments ago about why he supported the legislation. >> for two strong reasons. first of all, worker choice. the freedom to choose. and the concept of more and better jobs for our state. i think it was a good thing to sign the legislation and move forward. >> bret: this makes michigan the 24th right to work state in the u.s. let's get an update now from the michigan capital. correspondent mike tobin is live in lansing. good evening. >> good evening, bret. what you can't see tonight in darkness is a column of state troopers surrounding the for's office building. they are armed with baton and wearing riot gear. from behind that column of protection, governor snyder made his announcement that michigan
breaking news. >> just say no! >> massive pro-union power and not enough to stop michigan's republican lawmakers from approving two bills making it illegal for public and private unions to compel workers to pay union dues a. short time ago, the michigan legislature okayed the bills despite protests of more than 10,000 workers who came out in the freezing cold to show their opposition. and past hour, republican governor rick snyder pledged to sign both in to law as early as tomorrow making michigan the nation's 24th right to work state. >> i didn't do this for the politics. this is a policy issue that came about because the proposal 2 went down and we had a large-scale discussion going on and best to say it's on the table. let's make decisions, move forward. this is to move michigan forward. about more and better jobs and worker choice. >> and one top union official has vowed to wage war against lawmakers that support the measure saying, quote, we are going to take you out. nbc's ron mott has the latest of lansing. >> reporter: good afternoon, tamron. protest is the word of the day. the
tonight, we'll update negotiations aimed at avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> ifill: then, we look at michigan's debate over right-to- work laws which would prevent labor unions from requiring membership. >> woodruff: paul solman explores the tax deductions that could be on the chopping block in the quest to bring down the deficit. >> we estimate $1.1 trillion a year in revenue the government gives up because of all the tax breaks. that's enough to solve the revenue problem but it's not going to happen. >> ifill: ray suarez has a newsmaker interview with secretary of homeland security janet napolitano. >> you can discuss border security and immigration reform simultaneously now. we don't have to this kind of first this and then that. at this point they actually go together. >> woodruff: special correspondent rick karr reports on the polluted waters that spilled into new york homes and businesses in superstorm sandy, raising health concerns. >> everybody sort of got sick at the same time. all of us sort of attributed it to, well, we're all stressed out. it's very cold. but that said, there is a
his public campaign for a deficit deal on his terms to the daimler diesel plant in redford michigan. >> if congress doesn't act soon meaning in the next few weeks, starting on january 1, everybody is going to see their income taxes go up. it's true. y'all don't like that? >> no! woodruff: instead, mr. obama again pressed for raising tax rates on the top two percent of incomes. >> and that's a principle i won't compromise on because i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me, get to keep all our tax breaks and then we're asking students to pay higher student loans. >> woodruff: his michigan visit came a day after the president and house speaker john boehner met privately at the white house. their first one-on-one session since the election. neither side gave any details about what was discussed. instead they issued identical statements saying that lines of communication remain open. at the same time the sunday talk shows highlighted a partial split in g.o.p. ranks over letting the president have higher tax rates on top earners. tennessee
of michigan. the fight coming to a head over that state's right to work law as thousands of protesters swarched the state capital. union supporters are rallying around the capital building itself in lansing as gop lawmakers from both state houses vote on a bill that would significantly weaken union rights in a state considered one of the cradles of the labor movement. the law prohibits workers from being required to pay union dues as a condition of employment. republican governor schneider saying that he'll sign that bill right away making michigan the 24th state with the right to work. >>> yesterday president obama joined the chorus of voices condemning this move. >> by the way, what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this, what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your right to bargain for better wages. giving you the right to work for less money. >> nbc is live from lansing, michigan, and from detroit i'm joined by michigan democratic congressman gary peters. ron, i'm going to start with you. describe the scene for us there and what's at stake. >> reporter: good day to you. it just
, over in michigan thousands of union members and supporters are protesting at the state capitol building in lancing. the state, which is the heart of the united autoworkers and ground zero for union rights is poised to sign a major anti-labor bill into law today. the president weighed in on that, speaking yesterday in redford. >> these right to work clause, they don't have anything with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. america is not going to compete based on low skill, low wage, no workers rights. that's not our competitive advantage. there's always going to be some other country that can treat its workers even worse. >> the house speaker, john boehner, is speaking now on the house floor regarding the fiscal cliff. let's take a listen. >> beyond 1:50 p.m. today. >> the speaker of the house for five minutes. >> the speaker, last week republicans made a serious offer to avert the fiscal cliff, and most of it was based on testimony given last year by president clinton's former chief of sta
strongholds in the country, michigan. michigan's governor, rick snyder, moments ago, signed right to work legislation into law. now, the new law sharply limits union power, something once unthinkable. hundreds of protesters packed inside the capitol building for the vote. trooper on hand in riot gear. michigan, home of the most powerful union in the country, a symbol of union power and dominance for generations. not anymore. workers are no longer to give up part of their paycheck to union dues. now, the unions didn't go down without a fight. literally. take a look at this, outside the state capitol. the moment the bill passed, things got violent. tents belonging to americans for prosperity, who were there to support the bill, torn down. one of the groups senior staff, steve, who is actually also a fox news contributor was brutally assaulted as he tried to protect his staff. nuts. joining us now, thee most senior republican lawmaker who voted today, the house speaker, thank you for being with us today. this is monumental on so many levels. we have a michigan republican controlled legislatu
. hundreds of union workers and supporters are protesting a so-called right to work bill in michigan that threatens organized labor in the state. we're live in lansing. >>> a decorated combat veteran, a young man excited about joining the military, we're remembering the navy s.e.a.l. killed while trying to rescue a fellow everyone that afghanistan. >>> plus this. >> your roof just collapsed. >> it just collapsed. >> a family is cleaning up after their ceiling collapses following a severe storm and it's all caught on camera. we'll show you more of that dramatic video, plus guns and football, after the shooting death involving a kansas city linebacker some nfl players are turning in their firearms. "newsroom" starts right now. good morning, everybody. i'm ted rowlands in for carol costello today. lansing, michigan, is the target of a protest. the republicans are trying to push through a right to work bill that could severely hurt organized labor in the state. the governor promises to sign the bill as soon as it hits his desk which could be within hours. the new legislation bars requiri
was going to say fiscal. >> michigan passed controversial right to work laws. we're on top of developing news. >> i'm krystal ball we fight for the right to party. it's a holiday party after the show and we'll be well behaved. >> sort of. >> i'm steve kornacki. i'm a resident party animal. you haven't seen the pictures of the 2002 massachusetts gubernatorial debate watch party. >> what? >> we stand corrected. it's always a party here in "the cycle." >>> developing news this hour. protesters rae main out of michigan's capitol building urging the governor not to sign right to work legislation and barring them from requiring workers to pay union dues as a condition of employment. the state house passed both bills today dealing with private and public sector unions. protesters were shouting "shame on you" from the gallery. michael moore said they're up to 15,000 people at the protest. state senate passed both bills last week and now michigan governor rick snyder says he'll sign them as early as tomorrow. nbc's ron mott is there. what's the latest? >> reporter: hey there, good day to you. i'm
point, bracing for protests. thousands battling over michigan's right to work. will the governor reconsider the controversial measure. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with steve israel. jeff sessions, sandy levin, rahm emanuel and businessman javier paolomarez, ed burns, frankie monday easy, and chuck leavell. "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. "starting point" this morning, angry, united. bracing for protests in michigan as the state is poised to become the most unionized right to work state. as many as 10,000 unionized workers expected at the state capitol to voice their disapproval of the measure. some of them teachers, two detroit area school
it. make your mark with ink from chase. >>> welcome back. >>> michigan is poised to become the most unionized right to work state. workers are expected to voice their disapproval today at the state capital. even president obama stepping into the fray during a visit yesterday to a daimler truck factory in redford, michigan. >> these so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> alison kosik is in lancing with the latest for us. if we could take this to the 101 level here. explain right to work. >> it essentially means if this law passes, the right to work law, even it passes here in michigan, it means if you are looking for work in michigan you wouldn't be forced to pay union dues 0 are join a union as a condition to get a job or keep a job. for a state like michigan which was built on unions, it really is a huge sea of change here. and it comes with an element of symbolism as well. especially since unions are so engrained in this state.
. the president flew to michigan where he blasted the republican-led state legislature and the republican governor for their support of right-to-work legislation. his timing could hardly have been worse. that worker rights legislation will be voted on and given final approval tomorrow and be signed into law by governor rick snyder. michigan becomes the 24th state in the nation to ratify a aw that protects workers from being forced to pay union dues as a condition of their employment. we'll be examining tonight what's happening in michigan and in washington, d.c. with the author of "shadow bosses: how government. employee unions control america and rob taxpayers blind." mallory factor joins us. also tonight, egypt's president, muhammad morsi, ordering the egyptian military to arrest people in the street even as he claimed to have rescinded the dictatorial powers he assumed which have spurred violent demonstrations. and a new intelligence report concludes that america's time as the lone superpower is nearing an end. former director of national intelligence john negro panty joins us to talk about ou
over unions and so-called right to work legislation in michigan is ultimately about one thing, republicans wanting to turn a blue state red. angry protests have accompanied the decision by the states legislature to send two bills which would weaken unions to the desk of the state's governor. that man, rick snyder, has promised to sign them perhaps by tomorrow. ironically in a building named after mitt's father, george romney, who according to buzz feed opposed right to work laws, unlike his son. but governor snyder tells an dia mitchell moments ago that this is about helping workers. >> i think it's a good thing. it's about being pro-worker. it's about giving freedom of choice to workers and secondly as was mentioned in the earlier report, it's about economic development. >> that's what we describe as a crack burger. the president stated on monday what actually will happen. >> these so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what the they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >
. >>guest: why would the president spent yesterday in michigan railing against something that the michigan legislature is going to do when we are facing a few days before going over the cliff? i don't get it. unless the president things he will gain in the short temperature -- term politically by going over the cliff but long term historians put the blame on the president of the up. it may look like a gain short term, but in the long run, is that really helpful to the president's reputation in 20 or 30 years they could not get a deal and push the country into another recession or a short-term recession? >> harry reid, the majority leader, would say very unlikely we would have a deal by christmas, ostensibly we are running out of days on the calendar. if that is the case and he quibbles that the republicans have not come up with specifics, are you against running to the clinton rates or are you okay where that if it avoids the hoops of looking for like revenue? >>guest: i am in favor of anything that gets an agreement. it seems to me, why are we focusing on that narrow part of this entire s
. >> big labor braces for defeat in michigan. >> poised to become the most unionized right to work state. >> if this law passes it means if you're looking for work you wouldn't be forced to joan a union. >> police are estimating 10,000 protesters will be here around the capitol. >> it's not about more jobs. it's trying to reduce the middle class even further. >>> severe weather including a possible tornado has damaged dozens of mobile homes in central florida. >> we're devastated about the whole thing. >> similar scenes in alabama, trees knocked into homes. >> oh my god. >>> a member of the navy's elegal s.e.a.l. team six killed in afghanistan during a weekend rescue mission, identified as nicolas checque. >> serving his country that's what he wanted to do. >>> witnesses say a killer in manhattan vanished. >>> cell phones provided nearly free of charge. >>> new zealand's driving dogs are back but for this time the dog drove the car by itself. >>> danny woodhead had the ball punched out, in the lands of lloyd, touchdown! complete domination by brady and the patriots. >> and all that matte
. the president is now talking mr. obama the road to michigan he was trying to sell his tax hike proposal. he claimed michigan's law that gives workers the right to choose whether or not they want to be long to a union is about politics not economics. listen to this. >> we have to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to better bargains. >> so-called right to work laws they don't have to do with economics they have everything to do with politics. what they are really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. we don't want a race to the bottom. we want a race to the top. we -- (applause) >> america is not going to compete based on low skill, low wage, no worker's rights. we have to get past this whole situation where we manufacturer crises because of politics. >> despite what the president said the new right to work law does include collective bargaining rights. while preached the right to workers he says american people show compassion. speaker boehner while he fights to keep america from plunging off the fiscal cliff. >> if you have an ou
some have fled benghazi. jenna: a big day for michigan, one of the most pro-labor states historically in this nation about to become a right-to-work state. the uns are not going down without a fight. they are staging massive protests. i'm jenna lee. rick: i'm rick folbaum in for jon scott. as massive amounts of demonstrators state troopers with tear gas and batons stand at the ready. governor rick snyder vowing to sign the right to work legislation as soon at it hits his desk. the measure means employees will decide for themselves whether they want to join and financially support a union the governor says that could create more jobs, others are worried that the legislation could weaken the union's power and lead to lower wages for everyone. >> it is a big deal because what they want us to do, they want to reduce workers down to working for less. it is not about, more jobs. the jobs are going to be there. about what conditions you work under. we want to basically work, rite to work and have benefits and feed the middle class like we were. and this legislation is trying to reduce the mi
at michigan state house. there's a vote from the house that has passed the right to work bill. want to bring in alison kosik for the latest. this is controversial, allison. how are people responding? >> reporter: there's not much response here. what's going on inside the capitol is this. two votes happening in the house, one passed as you said, 51-48. that is the public union portion of the right-to-work law. that passed the house. now with the house is going to do is vote on a senate bill on private unions and that is also expected to pass. once that does if it does, it's expected that measure will head to governor rick snider's desk where he is expected to sign it. i did talk to protesters here, i let them know that the first part did pass. one teacher i talked with who came out today said they're not listening to us standing out here. at the same time another person in favor of the measure came up to me and said, what's the latest? i said the first measure passed and she jumped up and said, yeah. you are feeling the tension start to happen here. one thing that happened 40 minutes ago a te
petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. protests turn violent in lansing, michigan, as union protesters ripped down a tent belonging to right-to-work supporters. becoming the 24th right-to-work states today allowing workers to get the right to join unions. jeff flock is in lansing michigan covering the story for us. i thought it was interesting how you covered the scene there with michigan a few years back, excuse me, wisconsin. >> wisconsin, exactly. not the same kind of intensity. part of that is because this is already pretty much a done deal. there they had not a teacher headed off. the second one being debated right now. but renew over here to the scene of the george romney state office building. george romney, former governor of wisconsin, and father of mitt romney. the large group of protesters are trying to get into the crowd and see. they have essentially ringed the entrance of the building trying to make their voices heard. they feel very frustrated. they feel this had passed in a lame duck session without the opportunity for there to be more debate about it. that i
the role of labor and their power. it all unfolds in michigan. is it the new wisconsin? find out what is driving the big change in the state. that's home to one of the most powerful unions out there. the united auto workers. good morning from washington, tuesday, december 11th, 2012. i'm chuck todd. one of those times in washington when the less that is said the better the news may be, that is if you hope lawmakers and the president come to an agreement on a verdict in this so-called fiscal cliff. we know some of you don't want to deal, but the president has no public events today and not many planned for this week. many at the white house and congress believe the less that anyonecome pains publicly the better the chances are at striking some sort of fragile deal. the president was back on the road monday trying to wheel a little bit of his political capital to drive home the deal that he wants at a minimum on the fiscal cliff. >> typical middle class family of four will see an income tax hike of around $2,200 how many of you can afford to pay another $ $2,200 in taxes? not you? i did
and sway the outcome. exhibit a, the president rallied the crowd on monday in michigan to make the point he's looking to drive home. taxes have to go up on the rich. >> so when you put it all together what you need is a packet that keeps taxes where they are for middle class families. we make some tough spending cuts on things that we don't need, and then we ask the wealthiest americans to pay a slightly higher tax rate. >> but here's exhibit b. republicans still have the majority in the house. and many conservatives say they have their own mandate in their districts to cut spending and stop the president from raising taxes. and that brings us to exhibit c republicans are determined to play the long game to win. >> the game you're playing is small ball. you're talking about raising rates on the top 2% that have run the government for 11 days. you just got re-elected. how about doing something big that's not liberal, how about doing something big that really is about partisan. every big idea he has is a liberal idea that drowns us in debt. how about manning up here, mr. president, and use yo
, brooke. happening now, thousands of angry demonstrators swarm michigan state capital for a fight over labor unions. >>> here in washington, republicans turn the tables on president obama. we're going to tell you what specific information they are now demanding. >>> and who was she? you're going to find out why a century's old mystery may be closer to a solution. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we begin with today's dramatic defeat for union workers in the industrial's heartland. this was the scene as republicans pushed through right to work bills saying that they don't have to pay union dues in in order to get a job. on lookers chanted, shame on you after the vote. this is a watershed moment because michigan is the same as countless union struggles, including this 1932 march where five people died and dozens were injured when unemployed workers were attacked by police and ford motor company security guards. after decades of gains, fewer than 12% of u.s. workers now belong to unions. in michigan, it's fewer than 18%. cnn's poppy harlow is at the state capital in lansi
in lancing, michigan as the city prepares for what could be the largest demonstration in history. the legislature has now rushed through right to work legislation, and governor rick snyder is expected to sign it today. police are on hand and limbed the number of people allowed in the common areas of the capitol. president obama said the right to work bill is not about economics and has everything to do with politics. taxpayers have now made a total of about $22.7 billion overall from the government's investment in the bank rescue. aig is now fully private again. and the british bank is going to pay the u.s. a $1.9 billion penalty for breaking u.s. sanction laws. they have transferred money through every day presents another exciting issue. from financial regulation, fraud on wall street. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, what's going to happen tomorrow. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe dr
the high side public opinion on this. traveled to michigan yesterday. john boehner went on the floor and said i need to see their spending cuts. that's what's going on in the public level. privately staff are working together and the fundamentals remain in place for a deal. don't know if it's before or after christmas or before new years or just after it, but i believe will happen. >> all the vacations are planned, right? >> we've reached one of the weirdest days because speaker boehner came out and said the president has not offered specific spending cuts and the president says we've offered spending cuts and it's gotten to this point of childish points and these guys are saying did not and these guys are saying did, too, and these guys again saying did not. i agree with john. they need to get really close then because then there's a sense of urgency and that's what they feel like they can get the votes to get this done right up to the edge of disaster. >> it's not he said, she said. they have put out spending cuts. >> $600 billion that the president talked about in his proposal. >>
. but in michigan monday, the president had a warning about going over this now infamous fiscal cliff. >> consumer spending is going to go down. that means you've got less customers. businesses get fewer profits. they hire fewer workers. you go in a downward spiral. >> speaker boehner says he's still waiting for the president to identify spending cuts that he's willing to make to help deal with the nation's debt crisis. >>> thousands of demonstrators are expected to gather at the michigan state capital today in protest of a right-to-work measure. the legislation would bar unions from requiring non-union workers to pay those union fees. democrats met with the governor to urge a veto. and carollers gathered singing modified christmas songs in protest of the proposal. president obama said the legislation is about giving workers the right to work for less money. of course, the president enjoying a lot of support from the unions. if this does indeed happen, michigan will become the 24th right-to-work state. but governor rick schneider is backed by a full house and senate of republicans. so this could b
'm sure it will. i agree with you. >>> the other story, tensions mounting in michigan as union workers are protesting a bitterly distributed right-to-work bill. nbc's rob mott now with the details. >> reporter: good day to you from the michigan state capital where we saw a lot of protesters out here protesting two measures that the house passed today that would bar unions from forcing people to join those unions as a condition of employment. sometime tomorrow governor rick schneider is expected to sign them into law make michigan the 24th right-to-work state in the country, joining a lot of others where the gop has majority in the state legislatures. now, a lot of these workers today were dismayed at the timing of all of this. this is taking place during a lame duck session of the legislature when a new body is being sworn in here, and in a month's time it's going to have a few more democrats than we saw here today, so when i sat down with the governor this afternoon i asked him why not delay this just a little bit longer, let a new body come in and give workers and people around the s
in michigan, democratic caller. go ahead. >> caller: yes. i have a two-part question. i was wondering, for one, i'm going to be retiring here in another 12 years but i'm not going to have social security until probably the age of 70. i'm 50 now. and i was wondering, right now if i was to lose my job for some unforeseen reason, i will lose my benefits. i have the option, as an employee to keep my benefits at a about $800 cost. but when senators and congressman step out of their position, i'm not mistaken, they still have their insurance for life. and then the second part of the question, that i am posing is, i believe they are going to get a 3% pay raise every year and i have never seen in my lifetime them stop that. i was wondering if that is something could be possibly done? >> host: isabel sawhill. >> guest: i assume what you're talking about is that if you were to lose your job you would lose your benefits, you mean primarily your health care benefits. and you're right. you would lose them. under the affordable care act once it is implemented in 2014, that would enable you to go on an excha
to push through this right to work. >> this is interesting actually. michigan is a heavily unionized state so why would it be going right to work. there's enormous downward pressure on wages on american companies around the world that can make things cheaper elsewhere than here and our wages are uncompetitive in a lot of ways. in effect what people in michigan have to decide, do you want fewer jobs at higher wages or lower jomore jobs at lower w they have decided they want more jobs. >> you look at michigan and detroit, that's a pretty easy answer. >> the unemployment rate. >> the unemployment rate is horrible. detroit in 1960, i think, was one of the wealth nest city if not the wealthiest city in america and now one of the poorest. >> the fourth largest. >> this is a done deal, going through the house today, to a republican governor and says he will sign it. >> it's symbolic of two things, one, the politics of it all, what we've seen in wisconsin and elsewhere and the unpopularity of unions these days and secondly an economic phenomenon, basically a statement we want jobs and we're willin
in michigan could not stop lawmakers from passing bills that hurt union power. this could have a major impact on unions nationwide. the feds accuse a big bank of doing business with iran, cuba and libya and mexican drug cartels to the tune of billions and billions of dollars. who did they arrest? nobody in who are they trying to arrest? nobody. there is a fine. we will get to that. put down the cough syrup. pick up chocolate candy. researchers say chocolate could be more effective treatment in treating the common cough. that is all ahead unless breaking news changes everything. this is "studio b" today. first from fox at 3:00 in new york city, a major blow to labor unions wait for the michigan governor's signature. today, state lawmakers pass add measure that weakens labor unions while crowds of protesters rallied need and outside the statehouse. the demonstration is getting ugly. get the [blank] camera. >>shepard: the demonstrators are fighting the republican legislature and republican governor who says he will sign the so-called right-to-work bill into law. it would make it illegal to force
for watching. "erin burnett out front" starts right now. >> out front next, president obama in michigan today, selling americans on his plan for taxes. we're 22 days away from the cliff. does the plan add up? >> and a daring rescue in afghanistan claimed the life of an american navy s.e.a.l. as we prepare to go to afghanistan, we take a closer look at the american troop presence and how many americans will stay. >>> and offfield violence leads to the death of two nfl players. why the violence on the field, though, is a much more important issue. let's go "out front." >> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, cliff, slope, grand canyon. i don't know, martian cave, jupiter like storm. is the fiscal cliff really a fiscal slope. a downward spiral to something much worse. the possibility of going off the cliff is just 22 days away, and it sounds pretty ominous, but it could be a walk in the part compared with what could happen if lawmakers don't take a closer look at our bigger debt picture and soon. because what they're talking about is peanuts. president obama was in michi
of a deal, although i have to tell you. the president sounded pretty optimistic when he was in michigan about the possibility of us going off the cliff and falling into a second recession. here's what he had to say about the possibility. >> consumer spending is going to go down. that means you've got less customers, businesses get fewer profits. they hire fewer workers. you go on a downward spiral. >> downward spiral, not a very optimistic statement, although the president went on to say he's still hopeful both sides will come together. we're told he had a phone call today with the senate majority leader harry reid but no more phone calls or visits from speaker boehner. it's still on hold whether they'll move forward on a deal. >> shepard: looks like speaker boehner is getting pressure from the moderates in the party and certainly from the right. >> reporter: no doubt about it. bob corker from tennessee was on "fox news sunday" yesterday. he gave fo voice to something you're hearing from an increasing number of republicans right now which is maybe they should give in on raising taxes on
in michigan today selling americans on the plan for taxes. we are 22 days away from the cliff. does the plan add up? >>> daring rescue in afghanistan claims the life of an american navy s.e.a.l. as we prepare to go to afghanistan, we take a closer look at the american troop presence and how many americans will stay. >>> and off field violence leads to the death of two nfl violence. why the violence on the field is much more important issue. let's go out front. >>> jup testify-like storm. is it a slope? a downward spiral towards something much worse? the possibility is just 22 days away and sounds ominous but it could be a walk in the park compared with what could happen if lawmakers don't take a closer look at our bigger debt picture and soon. because what they're talking about is peanuts. president obama was in michigan today pushing the fiscal cliff plan and you know what? he made the solution sound so simple. >> when you put it altogether what you need is a package that keeps taxes where they are for middle class families, we make some tough spending cuts on things we don't need and ask t
that process. >> quick question on the michigan right to debate. there's one democrat who said today that if this right to work initiative is signed into law, quote, there will be blood. since the president weighed in yesterday and obviously made his feelings known, and has talked about changing the tone here in washington and around the country, do you -- does the white house feel any obligation to tell fellow democrats to debate this issue but debate it in a peaceful and -- >> the president believes in, you know, debate that's civil. i haven't seen those comments and i'm not sure that they mean what some would interrupt them to be -- interpret them to be, i just haven't seen them. the president has always opposed so-called right to work laws. as he said, those laws are generally political and not economic. they're more about the right to earn less pay than they are, you know, helpful to our economy. . he presented his views on that issue. ? when we were asking about the chicago teacher's strike before the election, you said it was a local issue and the president has, quote, n
. >>> the michigan house has approved a controversial right to work bill even as workers protested outside. that follows approval by the state senate last week. michigan governor rick snyder said he will sign that bill. more than 12,000 workers crowded into michigan state capital as legislature began debating right to work law. that prohibits unions from compelling members to be members and pay dues. security was tight. police in rite gear and carrying spray canisters on their belts. >>> what happens to the u.s. economy if we do go over the cliff? >>> the government cashes out of aig. what's next for the company and for the ceo? but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 oper
gathering at the state capital in lancing, michigan as the city prepares for what could be the largest demonstration in history. the legislature has now rushed through right to work legislation, and governor rick snyder is expected to sign it today. police are on hand and limbed the number of people allowed in the common areas of the capitol. president obama said the right to work bill is not about economics and has everything to do with politics. taxpayers have now made a total of about $22.7 billion overall from the government's investment in the bank rescue. aig is now fully private again. and the british bank is going to pay the u.s. a $1.9 billion penalty for breaking u.s. sanction laws. they have transferred money through the u.s. to drug car tails and nations like iron. the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. the chill of peppermint. the rich dark chocolate. york peppermint pattie get the sensation. >> she gets the comedians laughing... >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten command
in michigan. >> i will work with republicans. >> delivering a speech at an engine manufacturing plant. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> they are ready to make a deal. >> they are ready to make a deal on tax rates. >> republicans know that they have to give on taxes. >> i don't think there's a republican alive who can stop what is happening. >> senator corker has nailed this one. >> the leverage is going to shift. >> you have to have leverage. >> we don't have the leverage. the power isn't there. >> could a secret meeting seal the deal when it come to the fiscal cliff? the white house says it can happen. >> president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house. >> their first one on one in three weeks. >> the heavy lifting is going to have to happen this week. >> if this week goes bad -- >> this week is going to be a critical week. >> even if the speaker and president are cuddling in the lincoln bedroom -- >> i think everybody needs to cool their jets. >> that's not going to get us a deal. >> raising taxing will hurt the econo
with that. >> i just came from michigan. there's been a resurgence of the auto industry. there was federal money that went into it. without federal money, chrysler and gm would have gone bust. >> the liquidity. like aig -- >> exactly. let me finish. you talk about it's all wasted. that's not true. that's not true. some of it is well spent. and i think you should answer your question. sandy, not named after me, had a major impact on the east coast. there's been a request for help from the federal government. i'm all in favor of accountability. >> but did you have accountability with katrina? i don't think so. it's your constituents that are paying for the wasteful money. if you're coming here telling your constituents, you really don't -- >> no, look, i'm saying, i'm in favor of accountability. >> the congressman from new jersey needs to speak up for the state. >> i'm in favor of accountability. let me finish. after accountability is built in, will you vote yes or no? >> i will be supportive of slaks once we have the accountability in place. >> good. >> work with me on the accountability, f
. the president was in michigan speaking before autoworkers and selling his tax plan. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everyone is going to see their income taxes go um. it's true. you all don't like that. we can solve this problem. all congress needs to do is pass a law that could prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. everybody. [ applause ] that means 98% of americans and probably a hundred percent of ewe. >> some americans are slowly but steadily facing on the reality of fiscal americans. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we had one house. that's it. the presidency and the senates and the democrat's hands. so a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i actually think it has merit where you go in and give the president the two percent increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top two percent. and, all of the sudden, the shift goes back to entitlement. >> well, sena
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in michigan said he's willing to give a little but he's not willing to compromise when it comes to taxes on the wealthiest americans. as for house speaker boehner who he met with yesterday at the white house, he said the gop offer remains the same, no rate hikes. however, there were more signs over the weekend that republican unity may be cracking a little bit with lawmakers who want to take the tax issue off the table asap. >> there are a growing group of folks looking at this and realizes we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate is in the democrats' hands. a lot of people are putting forth a theory. i actually think it has merit. i'm beginning to think that's the best route for us to take. >> what we ought to be working on is the other 93% because even if you do what he wants to do on tax breaks, you only affect 7% of the deficit. what we have done is spend ourselves into a hole. we're not going to raise taxes and borrow money and get out of it. so will i accept the tax increase as a part of
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